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Katie Drummon: Charming. Well we’re going to take a short break. When we come back, we will recover where we started and talk to how much Americans worried needs to be of their privacy and on the dogs access to their data. Welcome again Valley innnnyI am the wired global editory directory, Katie Drummon. I’m here with our Senior Editor for security and investigations, Andrew Cout. Andrew, thank you again to be here.

Andrew Cout: Thank you for having me.

Katie Drummon: And talk a little wider about the dogs and American privacy. So there was, as you fuck you very well, a ton of coverage on the dogge and what they do in the federal government over these last weeks. A lot of turning, a lot of chaos sort and lots of concern, right? There is a great deal of concern between the newspapers and between the worst drafts on the dogs of government systems, have access to the data, accessing lovers. Can you explain what type of information would you can potential access to the agencies who have worked today in the federal government?

Andrew Cout: So have to have access to essentially, and they should know every place you live, exactly how much money you do. They have to have access to your medical history, likely to your seems like you look like it’s social network, everywhere you have been working, potentially traveling.

Katie Drummon: There was a paragraph in the story we’ve been posted yesterday that I thought you were a few weeks of Federal jobs, the Government Payment Department on Treasure Departers on Student Loan The Department of Education, the victim’s information of the disaster in fema and vast amounts of data and work data. And it goes out of here. I mean, this is an effort to access and hoover sorting a ton of really sensitive information about Americans. Can you walk through a few different hypothetical scenarios? If dog and Musk and the President Trump and the White House gets all data, get all this access, what could do with it?

Andrew Cout: One of the things we think of the inside of apparatus is of threatening form and only basically how are the chance to be intended by any type of attack? And in this case, we should complete completely redefine what our threat patterns look like. And this is mostly true if you are a vulnerable person. So if you are a mere immigrant, if you are looking for an abortion, just to throw the most obvious examples. This information could be used to target in one way or the other, and we do not know that that information could be used. Historically, I will not be that a government of government very very very much, as he is now, you are now, you tweute your bank memories, and you could see that happening to trump administration now . I am Obviously Laxracy Piracy, if the Fbia will be the vast amount of information they had to discover each who we know. We are just one month in this administration. We already see the crackdow of sweep on immigration, and that is going to evolve. We’re going to take at least four years, and it is really impossible for someone to know if they will be a target. So we just know what the threat pattern looks like in an environment where someone could potentially become a political mitttic. And if we look at authority regimes, it will be used in all different types of ways to go after people. And that given can be handled to fabric do not make risks for the accusabililes of crime they have not engaged. For years, it has been made the best privacy practice, and a quantity of people say, and many people just tell me: “If you have nothing to hide, don’t worry about it.” But now we don’t know what you should worry and we don’t know and the things you try to hide oe things that have been protected are now exposed. And so is really someone who can happen and what consequences could be.